I've just received an email from Altera about the availablity of the free Quartus 8 Web Edition. I've just finished downloading it (1.06 Gb). 73, Leon -- Leon Heller Amateur radio call-sign G1HSM Yaesu FT-817ND transceiver Suzuki SV1000S motorcycle leon355 at btinternet.com http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller