[hpsdr] cuSDR remote operation?

[Pat McGrath]

Where can Jeremy's success with the iPad be obtained?


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Harman [mailto:phil at pharman.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 6:34 PM
To: Jeremy McDermond
Cc: Aivars Straupe; OpenHPSDR
Subject: Re: [hpsdr] cuSDR remote operation?

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Hi Aivars,

You have raised an interesting topic regarding remote operation of HPSDR
systems.

In fact I'm currently in the process of writing an article about just this
topic seeing that there a number of different SDR architectures appearing
-these are:

1. Do the minimal amount of processing in the SDR hardware and do the bulk
in the PC/Tablet

2. Do all the DSP and networking in the hardware and keep any processing in
the PC/Tablet to an absolute minimum.  That way the SDR hardware can plug
directly into the Internet.

3. Do the minimal amount of processing in the SDR hardware. Use a small, low
cost, single board computer (SBC) connected directly to the SDR hardware
that is dedicated to the SDR and networking i.e. an SDR Server. 
This also removes the bulk of the processing from the PC/Tablet.

Most HPSDR users are using option 1 at the moment and Jeremy's success with
the iPad of being able to 'drink from a fire hose' is an impressive example
of how well this can work!

An example of option 3 is the work that John Melton is doing in porting
ghpsdr to a Raspberry PI SBC.

Each of these options has pros and cons but they are simply just that -
different options.

My own interest is in option 3 since we can keep the cost, and complexity,
of the SDR hardware down and many members can contribute to the design and
development of an SDR Server.

There are some very small, high performance and low cost, Linux based SBCs
appearing on the market that will make ideal SDR Servers.  This option gives
us enormous flexibility into the future.

With an SDR Server, using a highly efficient process to compress the receive
audio becomes viable as does compressing the bandscope data. In which case
the data rate from the SDR Server will be substantially lower than a direct
connection to Metis or Hermes.

And FYI, cuSDR uses a Client-Server architecture (although presently both
reside on the same PC during the development phase) which will support
option 3.

73 Phil...VK6APH





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> On Nov 26, 2012, at 8:45 AM, "Aivars Straupe" <yl2gvc at inbox.lv> wrote:
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>>  Hello!
>> I've got a question about cuSDR remote operation. Is it possible to 
>> organize that over internet? First, how to transfer sound? Second, 
>> which ports are necessary to forward? And, is there any possibility 
>> to minimize traffic? I found just one, switch from 192 to 48. That 
>> minimize traffic to 600kb/s, but that is still a lot. Any suggestions?
>
> Remember that currently openHPSDR hardware doesn't route IP.  That 
> means you have to be on the same network segment as the hardware.  
> This precludes "over the Internet operation."  The big sticking point 
> is that the hardware needs to get a discovery packet from an IP 
> address to wake it up and get it to recognize you.  This has to be 
> done via broadcast, which means that it must be done on the local network
somehow.
>
> Audio shouldn't be an issue.  It's generated on the computer side anyways.
>  It doesn't need to be really "transferred," it needs to be pushed out 
> a local device rather than (or in addition to) the openHPSDR audio 
> connector.  This is what's done on Heterodyne for iPad because the 
> typical use case for those folks is not near the openHPSDR rig.
>
>>  73!!!
>>                                      Aivars.
>
> --
> Jeremy McDermond (NH6Z)
> Xenotropic Systems
> mcdermj at xenotropic.com
>
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