[hpsdr] Angelia and Hermes External Clock problem

[William H. Fite]

Could one of you gentlemen take a few moments to sketch out a schematic for
the piggyback board and guidance on the best way to connect it?  Would be
most appreciated by those of us having this problem with the external clock.


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM, John Sager <john at sager.me.uk> wrote:

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> The TCXO used in Hermes is a Fox 924. Although there is no rise and fall
> time specification on the data sheet, it does say that the output is
> HCMOS, which implies a fast risetime. This is borne out by there being
> no PLL unlock glitches, though the device does exhibit small steps in
> frequency with temperature changes, as discussed previously on this list.
> For many modes, neither the specified frequency error nor the frequency
> steps are of any consequence but there are uses for Hermes which require
> good frequency stability and/or high frequency accuracy.
>
> The external reference input on Hermes has not performed well thus far
> and the addition of a schmitt trigger buffer as a piggyback board
> restores its performance in this area.
>
> 73 John G8ONH
>
>
> On 20/08/13 15:21, Helmut, DC6NY wrote:
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>> Hi Stijn,
>>
>> no disagreement! I also don't know why the designer saved such a hex
>> inverter or similar on Hermes/Angelia. Most other hardware details and
>> components are a 100% copy of Mercury, Penny and Metis. On all of these
>> cards the same 'simple' TCXO is used to feed the FPGA with a clipped sine
>> signal. May be that's an issue in frequency critical applications. In that
>> case Mike, KF4BQ, found an appropriate solution. It seems also possible to
>> feed an adjusted external square wave signal directly via the SMA jack
>> and a
>> short piece of thin coax to J20.
>>
>> 73, Helmut, DC6NY
>>
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>> Hello Helmut ea.
>>
>> Indeed Atlas is a solid platform in this regards and Hermes has some parts
>> loaned from this system. But in the external clock circuitry some parts
>> have
>> been omitted. Excalibur in the Atlas system contains except the clock
>> shaper
>> also a 74ac04 buffer. This takes care of the fast rice-times that we seem
>> to
>> be missing on Hermes. The second thing this
>> 74ac04 does is: it protects the fpga input a bit against overvoltage since
>> the 74ac04 is powered by 3.3v and not 5v.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Stijn PE1RKS
>>
>>
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