[hpsdr] Updated KISS Konsole for Cross-platform Execution

Thu Sep 11 07:27:23 PDT 2014

Sid and others,

Yes; the discussed error has nothing to do with the patch which was a
simple fixup to the error of getting a netmask in a way that worked on
both linux and os x. I am glad to hear that it did test OK on Linux.
Thank you Sid for letting us know.

Regarding the discussion of UI porting, I only mentioned Xamarin.Forms
in relation to the mobile platforms. I agree that there may be a
license issue. Even if Xamarin.Forms is license compatible, the
development tools must be licensed for its use which would be a
burden. Of course GTK# would be a good choice for a single cross
platform desktop UI. But if someone is going to go through the trouble
to do a new UI it probably makes sense to abstract it in a way that it
would be very easy to build native/other UIs (including keeping
Windows.Forms) on top of the core code.

73, John KF5SAB

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Sid Boyce <g3vbv at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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> Hi Chris,
> I got the same 6 Warnings and 1 error using xbuild on openSUSE and Kubuntu.
>
> No errors with monodevelop - built it on openSUSE and copied everything over
> to another openSUSE box and Kubuntu. Both AOK.
>
> I eventually found the config file - ~/".config\OpenHPSDR\KISS
> Konsole\KK.csv" I had to enclose it in " " in order to view it.
> It does not reflect current settings - a save option is needed.
> 73 ... Sid.
>
>
>
> On 11/09/14 10:22, Chris Smith wrote:
>>
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>> John
>>
>> I found the svn patch problem. The previous patch required the cwd to be
>> Unified. This new patch requires the cwd to be one level higher. So I was
>> able to apply the patch but the xbuild threw up the following error under
>> Ubuntu 14.04:
>>
>> Errors:
>>
>> /home/chris/kiss/KISSKonsoleUnified/Unified/KISS Konsole Unified.sln
>> (default targets) ->
>> (Build target) ->
>>
>> /home/chris/kiss/KISSKonsoleUnified/KISSKonsoleSetup/KISSKonsoleSetup.wixproj
>> (default targets) ->
>>
>>
>> /home/chris/kiss/KISSKonsoleUnified/KISSKonsoleSetup/KISSKonsoleSetup.wixproj:
>> error : Target named 'Build' not found in the project.
>>
>>          6 Warning(s)
>>          1 Error(s)
>>
>> 73, Chris
>>
>> On 11 Sep 2014, at 09:52, Chris Smith <chris at vspl.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Don't know if I'm missing something here but I can't get the patch to
>>> apply to the svn from that path (517). Consequently I can't build this on
>>> either OS X or Ubuntu 14.04
>>>
>>> Building the "unpatched" source gets me:
>>>
>>>
>>> Errors:
>>>
>>> /Users/chris/Development/HPSDR/kiss/KISSKonsoleUnified/Unified/KISS
>>> Konsole Unified.sln (default targets) ->
>>> (Build target) ->
>>>
>>>
>>> /Users/chris/Development/HPSDR/kiss/KISSKonsoleUnified/KISSKonsoleSetup/KISSKonsoleSetup.wixproj:
>>> error :
>>> /Users/chris/Development/HPSDR/kiss/KISSKonsoleUnified/KISSKonsoleSetup/KISSKonsoleSetup.wixproj:
>>> /Users/chris/Development/HPSDR/kiss/KISSKonsoleUnified/KISSKonsoleSetup/KISSKonsoleSetup.wixproj
>>> could not import "$(WixTargetsPath)"
>>>
>>>          6 Warning(s)
>>>          1 Error(s)
>>>
>>> 73, Chris
>>>
>>> On 10 Sep 2014, at 23:26, John Laur <johnlaur at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> I am happy to report that it is technically possible to run KISS Konsole
>>>> on Mac OS!
>>>>
>>>> Again sorry for the delay. Attached is the patch that fixes the
>>>> networking error on OS X. The original problem was that the netmask property
>>>> of the network interface is not implemented by Mono, so a try/catch was
>>>> added if the native property fails. This workaround code did not work on Mac
>>>> because the interface address family is not duplicated into the sockaddr_in
>>>> struct as it is in Linux. However from the documentation I believe my
>>>> approach will work on both platforms.
>>>>
>>>> The patch applies to the svn under branches/K9TRV/KISSKonsoleUnified
>>>> Before committing it to SVN would someone please confirm that the code still
>>>> works on Linux to retrieve the interface netmask? I do not have a Linux
>>>> environment set up for this kind of thing.
>>>>
>>>> A screenshot of KK running under OS X 10.9 Mavericks is here
>>>> goo.gl/IK3LMc
>>>>
>>>> Performance is OK but MonoMac's implementation of Windows.Forms is both
>>>> poor and buggy. Since the implementation is done with Carbon, this limits
>>>> the application to 32 bit which reduces the performance of FFTW somewhat on
>>>> this platform. One problem is that the waterfall display doe not work at
>>>> all. Also, radio discovery only seems to use the primary network interface.
>>>> I am not sure if that is the way KK is implemented or not? I only had 20
>>>> minutes or so to work on this last night so I just endeavored to see if I
>>>> could actually get it to run. Because of the issues with windows forms and
>>>> the discovery this is still a ways off from what I would call 'usable' on
>>>> this platform, but it's sure a cool toy. If I have more time I may will
>>>> probably play with it further.
>>>>
>>>> IMO the first class approach would probably be to abstract the UI a bit
>>>> more and build something native for each platform we wanted to support
>>>> instead of relying on Windows.Forms emulation. This incidentally could open
>>>> up the possibility of KK running on mobile devices if a UI were built in
>>>> Ximian.Forms.
>>>>
>>>> 73, John KF5SAB
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:37 PM, George Byrkit <ghbyrkit at chartermi.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Dear John,
>>>> Please also send a copy of your patch, or as a text file (no html...) to
>>>> my email address
>>>> so that I can get it into the KISS code in a reasonable way, ASAP, to
>>>> that all can pull
>>>> from my dev tree and have success.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> George K9TRV
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <kk-kf5sab-osx.patch>
>>
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