[hpsdr] WELCH_WINDOW in Kiss Konsole

Helmut dc6ny at gmx.de
Wed Dec 28 09:21:28 PST 2016


Hi Georg,

why do you think, that the Dolph-Chebyshev window would be an ideal window
function? I would rate the constant (not decreasing) amplitude of the side
lobes at the stop band as big disadvantage.

73, Helmut, DC6NY


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Hi All,

inspired by Roger, I went through all the various window functions and 
realized that I never encountered the Dolph-Chebyshev window in a real 
application. Looking at the fourier transform, this should be an ideal 
function, isn`t it?

Does anybody have an idea why this function is not used in tecnical 
applications or did I miss it, only?

73,
Georg,
dl2kp


Am 24.12.2016 um 03:05 schrieb Roger Rehr W3SZ:
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> Hi All,
>
> I am sending this to the list as I wasn't sure whom among the many folks
> starting with Phil Harman who did such a great job giving us Kiss
> Konsole was the person to contact regarding the WELCH_WINDOW filter type
> in Kiss Konsole.  I figured that whether it is Phil or someone else who
> knows that section of the code, that person would be monitoring this list.
>
> I have used Kiss Konsole as the basis for some homebrew software that
> I've been using / playing with over the past couple of years.
>
> Over the past day I was comparing the filters included in this software
> and I discovered that the WELCH_WINDOW type of filter doesn't work.  I
> believe this is because of a typo.
>
> The code in Kiss Konsole's FilterDesigner.cs for this filter (around
> line 146) reads:
>
>                  case WindowType_e.WELCH_WINDOW:
>                      for (i = 0, j = size - 1; i <= midn; i++, j--)
>                          window[j] = (window[i] = 1.0F -
> (float)Math.Sqrt((float) (i - midm1) / (float) midp1));
>
> I believe that it should read:
>
>
>                  case WindowType_e.WELCH_WINDOW:
>                      for (i = 0, j = size - 1; i <= midn; i++, j--)
>                          window[j] = (window[i] = 1.0F -
> (float)Math.Pow((float) (i - midm1) / (float) midp1),2));
>
> After I made this change, the Welch window appears to work OK.
> I am certainly not a DSP expert, so I could be wrong.  The reference for
> my suggested change is:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_function#Welch_window
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> 73,
>
> Roger Rehr
> W3SZ
>
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