[hpsdr] Munin revisited.

Kjell Karlsen la2ni at online.no
Fri Aug 4 01:15:04 PDT 2017


Hi.

Some more tests with the modified Munin board shows that if the feedback  
resistors are increased to 100 Ohm each, the gain is increased to >23 dB  
in the output stage. That means that it is possible to drive the PA to  
>100W by using Munin or Angelia on all bands except on 6 meter. But on 6  
meter the output is >80W PEP.

I also tested without any feedback and the stage seems to be stable and  
the output on 50 MHz is >100W with a setting of 38.8. I can not see any  
increased IMD without feedback, it is at -30 dBc(ref PEP).

So from this, I conclude that it is possible to use the Push Pull PA with  
RD100HHF1 directly connected to Hermes, Angelia and Orion I to get 100W  
out.

I also find that the PA handles Pure Signal much better than the original  
Munin. The IM3 is >50 dBc on all bands. When using the original Munin it  
was difficult to get >40 dBc IM3.

73, Kjell




Hi all.

Some years ago I did a layout for a 100W PA using a pair of RD100HHF1
MOSFET transistors and called it Munin and an updated version, Munin II.
As far as I know more than 250 of them were built around the world.

Munin was more or less a copy of the 100W PA´s used by ICOM, Kenwood and
Yaesu. Apache Labs also have used a variant of this PA in all the 100W
units sold until now. It is extremely robust and I have only managed to
destroy 1 pair of them when I forgot to install the heat sink and used
them for a long time at 100W out.

In the ANAN-7000, Apache Labs has removed the Push Pull Driver stage that
uses 2 pcs. RD16HHF1 and drive the RD100HHF1 directly from the Orion MKII
board that can deliver maximum 3W out.

I was very surprised when I saw this so I decided to test with one of my
Munin boards. Using the same values as in the -7000 for the input circuit
and a 1:1 transformer, I got 100W OUT with <3W IN on all bands except 6
meter. I measured the input Return Loss and found that by removing a 200
pF capacitor across the secondary of the transformer, the output on 6
meter could be reach with 2,5W IN.

Then I tried to reduce the feedback in the PA. The feedback resistors were
2 pc. 22 Ohm in parallel on each transistor and by increasing them to 39
OHM each, I can get 100W out with <1W drive on all bands! That means that
the gain is >20 dB! And the linearity is not worse using less feedback.

According to the data from Mitsubishi, the gain on 30 MHz is 11,5 dB for
one devise so for 2 in Push Pull the gain is 3 dB higher, 14,5 dB. So were
does all this extra gain come from?

The gates are purely capacitive (Ciss=260 pF for each gate) so no power is
lost in the input. So by just using a 1:1 transformer and load it with 50
Ohm on the secondary, the driving voltage is 20V P-P. There is a mismatch
on the highest frequencies so one should expect that the gain should drop
a lot of dB but still the gain is above 20 dB. It might be possible to
optimize the input RL but I see no point in that as we have the Gain By
Band adjustments in PSDR and PiHPSDR.

Another positive observation I did was that the efficiency is better when
using this solution.

When using the original Munin, the current draw at 100W OUT was between 18
and 20A on all bands up to 10 meter and 22A on 6 meter. But now the
current is <15A up to 10 meter and just a bit higher on 6 meter. I have no
explanation for this!

May be it is time to do a new layout for a MUNIN III? It can be really
small.

73, Kjell

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