Still, with daily news of yet another 10 companies being sued in eastern Texas for unlicensed use of "customer feedback forms", "novel" doesn't really mean that much these days. One thing that might be good is that (as long as we don't make any changes) that suing someone for patent infringement when that exact infringement could be considered "prior art" is hopefully not considered a healthy thing to do?<div>
<br></div><div>[I'm not a lawyer, I do not play one on tv]<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Robert McGwier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rwmcgwier@gmail.com">rwmcgwier@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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</div></div><br>It is sufficiently nonspecific in terms of "novel" to SDR, that it seems like the rough equivalent of patenting air as a novel thing to aid breathing.<div><br></div><div>Bob</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Jeremy McDermond <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mcdermj@xenotropic.com" target="_blank">mcdermj@xenotropic.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>On Aug 8, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Robert McGwier wrote:<br>
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</div><div>> You are right but we have a friendly attorney in our midst and we cannot let this guy patent OpenHPSDR ideas unchallenged.<br>
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</div>I guess I'm the unfriendly one. That's what I get for being in criminal instead of patent law.<br>
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My woefully inadequate understanding is, though, that the US patent system doesn't allow external input in the patent examination process other than for a two month period after the patent is published. It was published in April according to USPTO so that time period has expired.<br>
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The claims are very specific, though, and my understanding (again, woefully inadequate) is that the claims control what can be asserted, not the abstract. The claims talk about a backplane with multiple "cores" on board, a power supply and even clocks. This wouldn't necessarily apply to OpenHPSDR. The patent, overall, doesn't seem particularly novel though.<br>
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> On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Chris Smith <<a href="mailto:chris@vspl.co.uk" target="_blank">chris@vspl.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> I suspect that the patent application can be negated by "prior art". i.e. HPSDR's backplane for that purpose has already been published and is already in the public domain. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art</a><br>
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>> On 8 Aug 2011, at 15:40, Robert McGwier wrote:<br>
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>>> This group had better respond and very negatively to this as soon as possible. John, I am thinking of you.<br>
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>>> Tao Wang has patent application 12/900803 for a backplane with boards in it that might include an LCD display for the purposes of SDR transmit and receive. This is just above Phil Karn's cat exerciser patent (waving a laser pointer on the floor in front of a cat). He is from Germantown Maryland. It was filed in April.<br>
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