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style="margin:0px;">Hi Helmut,</p><p style="margin:0px;">I don't think
that this is completely correct. The process is conducted at the ADC by
dithering over 2 or 3 quantization steps. Of course this results in an
S/R reduction. </p><p style="margin:0px;">However, the ADC is not the
first stage in the receiver system. The first stage is a low noise
preamp with 20 db gain. </p><p style="margin:0px;">The overall noise
temperature of the receiver is determined by the noise temperature of
the first stage plus a minor contribution from the second which is the
noise temperature of the ADC, however, divided by the gain of the first.
That's cascading rule!</p><p style="margin:0px;">You can easily
calculate that it is almost impossible to increase the overall
noise temperature by an order of magnitude just by increasing the ADC
noise figure by say a factor of 4.</p><p style="margin:0px;">73, Hans,
DL2MDQ. </p><br /><p style="margin:0px;"><br />-----Original
Message-----<br />Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:35:49 +0200<br />Subject:
Re: [hpsdr] Dither on Mercury-EU<br />From: "Helmut"
<dc6ny@gmx.de><br />To: "'wully'"
<wully@bluewin.ch>, <hpsdr@lists.openhpsdr.org><br /><br
/>***** High Performance Software Defined Radio Discussion List *****<br
/><br />Hi Alfred,<br /><br />enabled dithering reduces the
signal-noise-ratio at least by 6-10 dB. If<br />less, something is wrong
with the efficiency of dithering. My two<br />mercuries-eu show similar
values.<br /><br />73 Helmut, DC6NY<br /><br /><br />PS: Perhaps we meet
us 40m to continue<br /><br /><br />-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br
/>Von: hpsdr-bounces@lists.openhpsdr.org<br
/>[mailto:hpsdr-bounces@lists.openhpsdr.org] Im Auftrag von wully<br
/>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2011 09:07<br />An:
hpsdr@lists.openhpsdr.org<br />Betreff: [hpsdr] Dither on Mercury-EU<br
/><br />***** High Performance Software Defined Radio Discussion List
*****<br /><br />Hi all<br /><br />First, I would like to add my
congratulations for Phil Harman for this <br />award!<br /><br />I have
noticed a strange behavior of Mercury-EU, which might indicate an <br
/>individual board failure:<br /><br />Antenna input with 50 Ohms
terminated, no antenna. When switching on <br />Dither I notice an
increase in background noise level of between 7 and <br />11 dB
depending on the band! Typical noise value without dither is <br
/>around -130dBm (slightly better than tapr-mercury).<br /><br />Doing
the same experiment on my two Tapr-Mercuries, the increase of <br
/>noise is hardly noticable with a value of 1 dB.<br /><br />Since I
don't have two Mercury-EU, I can not compare.<br />Normally, I am
running the HPSDR with Dither off, so this is only a <br
/>"theoretical" problem, but it is interesting anyway.<br
/><br />Any suggestions are much appreciated.<br /><br />73, Alfred,
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