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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Is it possible that both positions are
      correct as stated?<br>
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      Someone has already made this point, but I'll summarize and say
      one way of looking at it is that Apache Labs has leveraged an
      opportunity that existed because of the OpenHPSDR project, but now
      that their sales are outgrowing that demographic it might be time
      to look elsewhere for polished end-user software.<br>
      <br>
      Don't get me wrong - I own both a 100D and a 200D, and would love
      to have both cutting edge, unfettered experimental software and a
      polished, beautifully-presented but slower-moving application. I
      would gladly pay for both, although I understand there are people
      that can't, won't or something in between.<br>
      <br>
      To really stick my foot in it, I'll also say that insisting that
      "all software should be free" and enforcing that view with piracy
      is, IMHO one of the most "chilling" things that's come along with
      regard to the availability of top-quality software. That Phil,
      Doug, Warren, Joe and whoever else contributes to design, firmware
      and software for these platforms does as much as they do as well
      as they do is something quite rare. I'd like to contribute, but
      every time I begin I'm somehow reminded of more mundane
      responsibilities... Oh yes, the bills... That's why I'd like to
      see a fully-funded commercial option and "dang" those torpedoes...<br>
      <br>
      My .02, rambling as it may be - <br>
      Jim N7CXI<br>
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      On 10/23/2016 1:08 PM, Scott Traurig wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Helmut,
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        <div>I don't see how you could say I was forgetting the history
          of HPSDR. I believe I made all of the same points in your
          first two paragraphs in my original post.</div>
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        <div>While the projects were not originally created for the plug
          and play crowd (or "appliance operators" as they are sometimes
          also derisively called), nevertheless the vast majority of
          Apache Labs radios are now being sold to exactly that
          demographic. And even if that were not true, the reality is
          that, at this point in the evolution of the HPSDR platform,
          both "experimental" and "plug and play" hams would obtain much
          greater benefits in UI improvements than they would in yet
          another mode of noise reduction.</div>
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        <div>73!</div>
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        <div>Scott/w-u-2-o</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 4:31 AM,
              Helmut <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:dc6ny@gmx.de" target="_blank">dc6ny@gmx.de</a>></span>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                        lang="EN-US">Hi,</span></p>
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                        lang="EN-US">Scott, please don’t forget the
                        history of HPSDR. The
                        projects were not created for this group ‘plug
                        and play’-hams, who only
                        moan about supposed GUI deficits. HPSDR was and
                        is an experimental platform. When
                        e.g. Warren is presently working on new
                        linearization algorithms to battle
                        against memory effects  of power amplifiers,
                        then this work is much more important
                        than to add some colored ‘lanterns’ in the GUI
                        or to start PS
                        automatically. BTW lots of guys don’t want this
                        toys. Ask those spoiled
                        hams how many of them ever used the KISS
                        console. It’s really working and
                        you can operate a radio even with that GUI.</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                        lang="EN-US">The growing challenge at least on
                        the HF bands is man-made noise.
                        To develop intelligent weapons against this
                        plague is more useful than other
                        cosmetic improvement. NR2, NB2 and SNB is just
                        the beginning. High performance
                        in the brand is an obligation to provide best
                        possible quality of our communication
                        channels.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                        lang="EN-US">Don’t misunderstand me, I know
                        Hermann personally and a
                        bow respectfully to his great work. It’s hard
                        for an individual  to
                        do and continue this work in the free time of  a
                        daily stressing and responsible
                        job. Others employ a lot of man power for that
                        task and can’t pass
                        Hermann’s work. Nevertheless without the
                        complete functionality of the
                        current openHPSDR PowerSDR or Thetis only a few
                        enthusiasts (can)will use CUSDR
                        for RX purposes or monitoring. We experienced a
                        similar story with the ADAT-200
                        six years ago. Hans, HB9CBU, offered a most
                        advanced directsampling radio,
                        produced in commercial facility, but the
                        software development was a one-man
                        show. </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                        lang="EN-US">I’m rather sure that our developer
                         will stay in
                        track and I’m looking forward to next exciting
                        project Minerva using the
                        DFC principle.</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                        lang="EN-US">73, Helmut, DC6NY</span></p>
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