<div dir="ltr"><div>Ah, I see what you are saying, Ben. By using a polarization diverse antenna, one can then suppress the dominant cause of fading, which is cross polarized multipath, leaving primarily only the spatial multipath as the source of remaining fading.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Scott</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 12:35 PM pa5bw <<a href="mailto:pa5bw@xs4all.nl">pa5bw@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<div><div>Hi Scott,</div><div><br></div><div>You correctly state that the ionosphere plus the earth's magnetic field split any wave enterig the ionsphere in a left-hand and a right-hand circularly polarized component. </div><div><br></div><div>The advantage of a circularly pola about, but the fading reduction, especially in NVIS propagation.</div><div>There most of the fading is caused by interference of the left-hand and right-hand circularly polarized waves, with minima of -35 dB. They will virually disappear when using circular polarization.</div><div><br></div><div>You can find several scientific publication on this subject on my ResearchGate website (Ben Witvliet). </div><div><br></div><div>73, Ben PE5B</div><div><br></div><br>Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 16:29:11 -0400<br>From: Scott Traurig <<a href="mailto:scott.traurig@gmail.com" target="_blank">scott.traurig@gmail.com</a>><br><br>It's probably worth mentioning that if you build an HF turnstile antenna<br>(two crossed dipoles or inverted V's) there are no modifications required<br>to PowerSDR or Thetis to use them as a circularly polarized array on<br>receive. Just feed each dipole to RX1 (ADC0) and RX2 (ADC1) with equal<br>length coaxial cable of the same type. Then use the "Diversity" function to<br>invoke a positive or negative 90 degree phase difference with unity gain.<br>You'll get either left or right hand circular polarization. I've always<br>wanted to try this, but I do not have a way to put up the required antennas.<br><br>Of course you'll have to choose one antenna or the other for transmit. Or<br>you could build a 90 degree phasing harness and do it the old school way<br>but the phasing harness will only be correct at a single frequency.<br><br>This applies to more than just NVIS. All signals reflected off of the<br>ionosphere become circularly polarized. If you can match your polarization<br>you can avoid the polarization loss from circular to linear. However at<br>worst that is only 3dB in theory.<br><br>73,<br><br>Scott<br><br>On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 7:36 AM Erik van Maanen <<a href="mailto:pa3des@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">pa3des@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Our scientific publication on NVIS research is just published in MDPI<br>> Sensors journal.<br>> We used a measurement system based on the ANAN200D and powersdr as well<br>> as a large amount of self developed hard and software.<br>> We specially like to thank Joe K5SO and Doug W5WC for their support and<br>> modifications of powersdr.<br>> (These modifications are now part of the normal powersdr release.)<br>><br>> The publication is Open Source, freely downloadable for anyone, and can<br>> be found on:<br>> <a href="https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/19/11/2616" target="_blank">https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/19/11/2616</a><br>> Besides good reading material for the weekend we also hope it can be<br>> used as another example of the value of ham radio.<br>><br>> 73' Erik PA3DES and Ben PA5B<br>><br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openhpsdr.org/pipermail/hpsdr-openhpsdr.org/attachments/20190614/7809a2e1/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://lists.openhpsdr.org/pipermail/hpsdr-openhpsdr.org/attachments/20190614/7809a2e1/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>HPSDR Discussion List<br>To post msg: <a href="mailto:hpsdr@openhpsdr.org" target="_blank">hpsdr@openhpsdr.org</a><br>Subscription help: <a href="http://lists.openhpsdr.org/listinfo.cgi/hpsdr-openhpsdr.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openhpsdr.org/listinfo.cgi/hpsdr-openhpsdr.org</a><br>HPSDR web page: <a href="http://openhpsdr.org" target="_blank">http://openhpsdr.org</a><br>Archives: <a href="http://lists.openhpsdr.org/pipermail/hpsdr-openhpsdr.org/" target="_blank">http://lists.openhpsdr.org/pipermail/hpsdr-openhpsdr.org/</a><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of Hpsdr Digest, Vol 160, Issue 5<br>*************************************<br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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