wow, prices sure hit bottom - might be a good buy for those doing SMT work: http://www.mpja.com/productview.asp?product=15860+TL new tips are 1/32" for $1.95 and they are selling 20awg 60/40 solder for $12.95 http://www.mpja.com/productview.asp?product=4457+TL de ken n9vv