[hpsdr] Horton LO

Robert McGwier rwmcgwier at comcast.net
Fri Jun 16 10:51:30 PDT 2006


It will be exceedingly important for phase coherent processing that we 
use the same clock to derive other clocks.   So for example,  Horton 
needs to hear the minimum Who by having this same clock have a divider 
that will produce a 200 kHz or N*200 Khz clock for the AKM5394A.  This 
will make  the entire system phase coherent with a dynamic range, and 
other parameters never before achieved to my knowledge.  We are 
basically talking a serious revolution with this.  I would suggest 
strongly in addition that we make provision for driving Mercury from the 
125 MHz clock (giving up10 MHz of bandwidth) to, once again,  get a 
phase coherent system.  NISSSHH.

The Phil's have hit a home run here.

Bob




Lyle Johnson wrote:
>> If we take the 500 MHz high quality oscillators and do a johnson 
>> counter to produce four signals at 125 MHz to drive the capacitors in 
>> the QSD,  we can then feed each of the 125 MHz signals into four 
>> equal length divider chains.  With 16 bit dividers,   we get 2.5 KHz 
>> resolution.  If we find we cannot put the 16 bit counters in a CPLD,
>
> CPLD or FPGA creating four instances of a 16-bit programmable divider 
> with 50% output duty cycle is easy.
>
> What we need is an FPGA or CPLD with four "zero delay, high drive" 
> clock lines inside the part.  I suspect the phase noise we'll get from 
> the division process switching threshold uncertainties will be fairly 
> small, and adequate for our purposes.
>
> The Max II device from Altera for example, has speed grades rated to 
> clock at 300 MHz and has exactly four global clock lines.  The 
> smallest device, like we're using in Janus, has 240 FPGA logic 
> elements, so we'd have 60 for each programmable divider.  We'd need 
> fewer, giving us some to use as the input program register to steer 
> the dividers.  $8 or so for the fast parts.
>
> The smallest Cyclone II device, like Phil is using in Ozymandias, has 
> 8 global networks, 4608 logic elements, and is available in speed 
> grades to 260 MHz.  The EP2C5T144C7() is only $15.30 in singles.
>
> I think if the jitter in these parts is acceptable, all we need is the 
> VP oscillator and the 500 MHz Johnson counter.  The jitter properties 
> of the divider will be important, but of course that'll be divided 
> down/averaged by the 16-bit programmable counter.  Need to find the 
> right way to implement that counter...
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
>
>
>
>


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