[hpsdr] LTC 2208 A/D Thermal Characteristics

Ray Anderson ray.anderson at xilinx.com
Wed Jan 14 09:33:07 PST 2009


Scott-

Not to belabor the point, but I found the Linear Tech document < http://www.linear.com/designtools/packaging/Linear_Technology_Thermal_Resistance_Table.pdf > where you apparently found the 0.24 °C/W number for the UP package. It is theta(jc) as I suspected. On the same document they quote theta(ja) as 28°C/W (which is even higher than quoted on the actual LTC2208 datasheet). These numbers are predicated on having the mounting heat sink path as recommended by the vendor.

So yes I think 20°C/W (or even 28°C/W) is a more realistic number " just because it appears on the data sheet"...

Bottom line is that as long as the silicon is below 100°C there is a comfortable safety margin. 

Regards,

-Ray  WB6TPU


> -----Original Message-----
> From: hpsdr-bounces at lists.hpsdr.org [mailto:hpsdr-bounces at lists.hpsdr.org]
> On Behalf Of Scott Cowling
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:17 AM
> To: hpsdr at lists.hpsdr.org
> Subject: Re: [hpsdr] LTC 2208 A/D Thermal Characteristics
> 
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> 
> I have reread my post several times, and I do not
> see where I ever said "at the top of the case".
> 
> The 0.24°C/W is the number off of the LTC package information.
> 
> If you feel that it is an unrealistic number,
> feel free to substitute any other number that you like.
> 
> If you think it is the number to the underside,
> feel free to measure it there. Add a few °C/W for
> the chip-to-board connection so you don't have to
> unsolder your chip to measure it.
> 
> If you think that 20°C/W (specified thermal
> resistance between junction and ambient) is a
> realistic number just because it appears on the data sheet, use that one.
> 
> Every one of these choices will result in a
> conclusion that the part is operating within
> spec. There will not be a problem until you reach
> nearly 100°C (measured at your favorite spot)
> using the worst-case numbers above.
> 
> Phil, if you choose to oversimplify grounding and
> thermal tradeoffs and call it "nonsense", feel
> free to do so (I oversimplified it too). My
> experience, on the other hand, tells me otherwise.
> 
> None of this changes the fact that there is
> plenty of thermal headroom on Mercury.
> 
> My intent was not to discourage experimentation
> (I specifically stated the opposite), but to
> dispel the myth that there is somehow a design or
> manufacturing defect in Mercury boards with ADC
> temperatures at 50°C, 60°C or even 70°C.
> 
> You are going to have to come up with
> temperatures a lot higher than these before you have a *real* problem. :-)
> 
> 73,
> Scotty WA2DFI
> 

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