[hpsdr] Interesting New Part from Intel

Chris Albertson albertson.chris at gmail.com
Wed Nov 24 18:06:36 PST 2010


Technically yes, I think it can be done now.   But I don't think they are
cheap enough to be left outdoors 24x7.  And the weight is not quite
low enough to hang from a dipole.

But mounting in a box on the ground with an antenna feed only as long
as the height of the antenna is reasonable.

Anyway, my point was that with this new chip the hard CPU does not
replace the soft core CPU, it replaces the PC thereby eliminating
the USB or Eithernet "pipe"   I'd bet even the fpga development
software could run on the Atom too.



On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Phil Harman <phil at pharman.org> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> If you want a small remote receiver that can be mounted at the antenna
> then that is available today.
>
> One of our members has modified the Mercury code to become a complete
> receiver i.e. filters, demodulation, AGC etc.
>
> The output is recovered audio that can be fed over a cable or VHF/UHF link
> etc.
>
> There is a simple control channel that lets you select
> mode/filters/frequency etc.
>
> At present it does not have a bandscope but there should be enough room in
> the Mercury FPGA to add one.
>
> If you were to add a Metis board and a WiFi router then you could control
> it from your iPhone etc.
>
> Just a thought...
>
> 73 Phil...VK6APH
>
>
>
>
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>> Actually this is far better for SDR than just making the soft CPU faster.
>>
>>
>> The number one problem I see with any SDR design and the number one bottle
>> neck
>> to performance is the connection between the ADC chip and the computer.
>>  We send
>> much effort crunching the digitized signal so that it can fit down
>> some pipe like USB.
>>
>> This chip eliminates the need for a pipe.  The Atom CPU can run a
>> conventional operating system
>>  (such as Linux) and normal SDR software (such as DttSP with a Java
>>  shell)  At the same time the
>>  Atom can run a web server.   That Atom can run all of the software
>>  that would today run on your
>>  PC.  In fact it would be the "PC".  And then there is no bottleneck
>>  between the PC and the FPGA.
>>
>>  Of course the little atom/fpga chip lacks a keyboard and display but
>>  it would be easy to
>>  run a VNC server on the Atom processor so you could access the SDR
>>  software other an Ethernet or WiFi
>>
>>  In sort now you can push even more function into the RF front end box
>> so all of the  DSP
>>  is done there and none on your desktop computer.    Maybe then the
>>  "desktop computer" can be an IPhone running a web browser?
>>
>> For a long time my goal has been a radio that is small and cheap
>> enough to keep outside
>> and ideally mount on the antenna directly with no feed-line  this chip
>>  almost allows this.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Jeremy McDermond
>>> <mcdermj at xenotropic.com> wrote:
>>>> ***** High Performance Software Defined Radio Discussion List *****
>>>>
>>>> Why do a soft core processor when you can get hard cores instead:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/11/22/intel-launches-fpga-equipped-atom/
>>>>
>>>> Intel just announced an Atom processor with an Altera FPGA integrated
>>>> on the chip.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeremy McDermond (NH6Z)
>>>> Xenotropic Systems
>>>> mcdermj at xenotropic.com
>>>>
>>>>
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