Al, From George's post it looks like KK has been in flux lately getting ready for Metis. I'd try the KK version he recommends as he has been much closer to KK than I recently and he knows the score. In particular, KK v1.0.16 Mercury v2.7 Ozy 1.8 (automatically should load w/KK v1.0.16 I assume) Penelope v1.2 Let us know how it turns out. 73, Joe K5SO 1296773723.0