[hpsdr] Programming Hermes Help

N4IS n4is at comcast.net
Sun Dec 2 17:52:50 PST 2012 

HI guys

Let me provide a user input. There is nothing wrong with the two processes,
I got confused with the description of J12 on the user manual. 
>>
J12: When inserted, this jumper starts the Hermes board in 'bootloader' mode
- see
Appendix A for details regarding this mode. For normal operation, this
jumper should
not be fitted.'
<<

I assumed that a firmware upload is not a normal operation, my first
mistake, and when I read the Appendix A it talks about J12 but there is no
mention of it for the updating Hermes firmware. 

The process of upload the firmware is clean and brilliant, what is missing
is just a note on J12 description.

>>
For normal operation and updating Hermes firmware using the HPSDR
programmer, this jumper should not be lifted.
>>

We just keep it simple. 

Regards
Jose Carlos
N4IS

-----Original Message-----
From: hpsdr-bounces at lists.openhpsdr.org
[mailto:hpsdr-bounces at lists.openhpsdr.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy McDermond
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 8:25 PM
To: phil at pharman.org
Cc: hpsdr at lists.openhpsdr.org
Subject: Re: [hpsdr] Programming Hermes Help

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On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:16 PM, "Phil Harman" <phil at pharman.org> wrote:

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> 
> I guess the problem I have with this is that I'm way too close to the 
> problem to see the solution.
> 
> I've re-read the User Guide and can't see how it can be made any clearer.
> But, perhaps I read between the lines too well!
> 
> If someone who has been through this process can suggest some changes 
> or additional text then I'd be glad to incorporate it.
> 
> I think the ultimate solution would be to incorporate the programming 
> function into the PC software.  That way the PC could periodically 
> check for updates being available and ask the user if they want to install
it.

Again, I think that the incorporation in HPSDRProgrammer of two separate
"modes" that look remarkably alike is confusing.  I'm not saying that my
solution is the only one with Flynn, but it certainly is one that works.  I
think it needs to be much clearer that the two main tabs are two different
modes that cause things to behave totally differently.  What might work even
better, but would require some work, is to have HPSDRProgrammer
automatically send out discovery packets and see if anyone is out there to
talk to in normal mode.  If there isn't, it can send out an "MAC Address"
request using the bootloader protocol to see if a board is sitting out there
with the jumper set.

While I've read your docs and I don't think they're badly written, you're
assuming they're going to get read at all.  If the program can be made
clearer and/or smarter, that's going to solve a lot of issues I think.  I
may be convinced to swallow my distaste of Qt long enough to do some
redesign if I get some time if not just to make things a lot easier for
folks.

> 73 Phil..VK6APH
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>> That was it, 20 seconds and it was done. 4 hours and all it was J12 
>> being installed!!
>> Others be warned!!
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: N4IS <n4is at comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Dec 2, 2012 5:30 PM
>>> To: 'Tim O'Rourke' <w4yn at earthlink.net>, hpsdr at lists.openhpsdr.org
>>> Subject: RE: [hpsdr] Programming Hermes Help
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim
>>> 
>>> I experienced the same situation you describe. Several attempts to 
>>> get Hermes discovered with no joy, but always able to see the Mac 
>>> address and the IP was 255.255.255.255. After reading the 
>>> recommendations to upload the firmware I understood it and you don't 
>>> need to change J12 to upgrade the firmware. J12 is necessary to be 
>>> on for the boot loader.
>>> 
>>> I removed J12 , power cycled Hermes and started PowerSDR. It worked 
>>> correctly, just quite a longer time to start.  I closed PowerSDR, 
>>> then another  power recycle Hermes and open programmer again, this 
>>> time it recognized Hermes and the firmware upgrade was easy as 
>>> expected. It seems that if you start with J12 on the board is not able
to get an IP address.
>>> 
>>> I have a TAPR Hermes and now the firmware is updated and working 
>>> just fine.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Jose Carlos
>>> N4IS
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hpsdr-bounces at lists.openhpsdr.org 
>>> [mailto:hpsdr-bounces at lists.openhpsdr.org] On Behalf Of Tim O'Rourke
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:43 PM
>>> To: hpsdr at lists.openhpsdr.org
>>> Subject: [hpsdr] Programming Hermes Help
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Well I am stuck, I can not discover Hermes.
>>> Have connection set to Obtain IP address automatically.
>>> I select the direct connection port in Programmer, I see Mac address 
>>> that looks correct to what I have read.
>>> But I can not discover Hermes.
>>> I have TAPR Hermes. All else seems fine with programmer.
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> Tim O'Rourke
>>> W4YN at ARRL.Net
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>> 
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