[hpsdr] Ozy/Magister will likely stop working on Win10 in about 60 days

[Scott Traurig]

It certainly seems that if Secure Boot is off then most problems will be
alleviated:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/driver-signing-changes-windows-10

73,

Scott

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 11:20 AM, George Byrkit <ghbyrkit at chartermi.net>
wrote:

> Scott,
> This may or may not work on Windows 10.  Certainly I am ONLY talking about
> Windows 10 Build 1607 and later.  It is not reasonable to expect a Ham to
> take a boot-time choice each time they (re)boot their computers.  I'm
> speaking about generally booting a computer.  I suggest that you review the
> article and other related information and make your own conclusion.
>
> What happens for debugging a driver under development is not relevant to
> what happens when you use a driver as a normal computer user.  I'm telling
> you that MANY drivers from the past will stop working on Windows 10 at Day
> 60 (or is it 90) after the release of Windows 10 Anniversary (build 1607),
> which occurred on August 2, 2016.  One of those affected is the
> Ozy/Magister 'libusb0' USB driver.
>
> And it is a separate issue if you have Secure Boot enabled in the BIOS of
> a modern computer.  YMMV.  Read, be informed, and draw your own conclusions
> that are relevant to how you use drivers.
>
> I had not seen a warning about this published on this list.  This will
> affect many pieces of HAM hardware, not just USB devices.  It could affect
> printers, things like MicroHam 'digikeyer' products and the like, and other
> pieces of hardware.
>
> 73,
> George K9TRV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Traurig [mailto:scott.traurig at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:07 AM
> To: George Byrkit <ghbyrkit at chartermi.net>
> Cc: OpenHPSDR <hpsdr at openhpsdr.org>
> Subject: Re: [hpsdr] Ozy/Magister will likely stop working on Win10 in
> about 60 days
>
> George,
>
> Will this no longer work?
>
> http://www.howtogeek.com/167723/how-to-disable-driver-
> signature-verification-on-64-bit-windows-8.1-so-that-you-
> can-install-unsigned-drivers/
>
>
> 73,
>
> Scott/w-u-2-o
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:51 AM, George Byrkit <ghbyrkit at chartermi.net
> <mailto:ghbyrkit at chartermi.net> > wrote:
>
>
>         ***** High Performance Software Defined Radio Discussion List *****
>
>         Dear all,
>
>         So Microsoft has a policy for double-signed drivers on Windows 10
> that didn't exist
>         before, and it will take place between 60 and 90 days after the
> release of Windows 10
>         Anniversary (build 1607).
>
>         The purpose of this is to ensure that the drivers are fully signed
> and fully trusted, at a
>         level that is greater than before, in order to be able to load on
> any computer with Secure
>         Boot active in the BIOS.
>
>         I won't enter into a debate as to whether this is a good thing or
> a bad thing.  I will
>         only point out that the Ozy/Magister USB drivers for PowerSDR,
> KISS Konsole, etc., are NOT
>         double-signed, and I don't really see a need to do that, and take
> the time, and spend the
>         money to do so.
>
>         While the current Ozy/Magister USB driver is single-signed, it is
> signed with a
>         certificate that is too old to be able to put the package thru
> Microsoft to get their
>         counter-signature.  If you want more information, I suggest that
> you visit
>         http://www.osr.com/developers-blog <http://www.osr.com/
> developers-blog>  and check the article 'Driver Signing - more details
>         emerge".
>
>         To do all of this requires a 'code signing certificate' from one
> of the vendors of such
>         certificates, apparently with 'EV' (extended validation?)  Such
> seem to cost $200-$400 per
>         year.  Since everything new uses Metis technology (Ethernet), I
> don't think that it is
>         worth the cost or the hassle to keep supporting Ozy/Magister on
> Windows 10.  If someone
>         who wants it to keep working donates the money, there might be a
> chance to reconsider.
>
>         73,
>         George K9TRV
>
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