OK, something is happening now, after several minutes after restoring patch antenna power: N,11356.2280,W,0.000,0.0,030317,9.7 that is NOT my lat and long, but it is not zero which frame has the '3'? I see $GPGSV,3,1,12,22,90,173,47,01,32,222,,23,,000,,29,,000,*7F 73 Glen K4KV